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SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL - ALIPAC
By Associated Press Originally published: Jun 26, 2013 - 10:51 am WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate pushed landmark immigration legislation past final.
CFR Making Moves on American Sovereignty?
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cfr_making_moves.html
Has anyone heard anything about this? How do we as citizens of the United States address such actions in a productive and useful way to put a stop to such?
President Bush’s publicity stunt pretending to protect our borders is worse than a transparent ploy.
Washington bureaucrats, backed by prominent think tanks, are now proposing the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), which will give you “a safer and more prosperous North America” with “freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic institutions.” That’s what the neo-cons promised they’d do to Iraq.
The SPP “trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity” they have planned for us is even worse than what they’ve done for Iraq. Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the SPP is the blueprint to drive the last nail into what once was a sovereign constitutional republic. It is NAFTA on steroids.
(more info at link)
Answer: It is unclear how much of this is going forward. It is clear that the Bush administration, who are globalists, did try to have discussion continue without public scrutiny. For example, when Congressman Tancredo recently called for public hearings to find out what is going on, the press was told that the names of Americans on the working groups were not being given out 'so they wouldn't be distracted by the public'. Compare this to Canada where the names of the people on the working groups are on the government web page.
Bush thinks it would be dandy to have free immigration here from Mexico for cheap labor for employees, only screening for security. The Senate Immigration bill which contained elements having us buy and give to Mexico equipment and training for patrolling their SOUTHERN border is possibly part of this - so Bush could ease up restrictions on their northern, our southern, border.
We don't know what is going on, and some of what is guessed is probably wrong. However, it is disturbing that these discussions have been going on for more than a year and we know so little about it.
I don't know if an 'Amero' is in the works. However, the overall idea might work with a generally equal economy like Canada. With Mexico it would flood our services including education. Middle class tax payers would foot the bill while corporate employers benefit from cheap labor.
Category: Immigration
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Senate Immigration Reform Bill Passes With Strong Majority
10 hours ago ... Senate Immigration Reform Bill Passes With Strong Majority .... As this process moves forward, I urge everyone who cares about this issue to ...
Nuevo Catholics
Like the three services celebrated earlier in the morning and the four that will follow into the afternoon, the 10:45 a.m. Sunday Mass at St. Thomas the Apostle Church in the Pico-Union district of downtown Los Angeles is crammed to the rafters, even though the church holds nearly 1,000 parishioners. When I spoke on a recent Sunday to Msgr. Jarlath - David Rieff article on how immigrants from Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America are revitalizing Roman Catholic Church in Los Angeles; describes how Archdiocese of Los Angeles, under leadership of Cardinal Roger Mahoney, has reached out to immigrants, whose moral seriousness and depth of faith have impressed parish priests; discusses tension between church as establishment institution and church as champion of poor Latinos and immigrants, as well as tension between church and Pentecostal or charismatic churches that have been winning many Latinos from Catholicism; says what is happening in Los Angeles is being reproduced throughout Catholic America to one degree or another and that Hispanicization of American Catholic Church has made it increasingly part of single Catholicism that spans all of Americas; photos (L) - David Rieff, a contributing writer, reported for the magazine on the recent elections in Bolivia and Mexico. - By David Rieff
SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL | The Detroit News
1 day ago ... Far-reaching immigration legislation cruised toward passage in the Senate on Wednesday as House Republicans pushed ahead on a different ...
Senate approves comprehensive immigration reform bill | The Raw ...
Today's vote should send an unmistakable signal to the House of Representatives to take action to move immigration reform forward, delivering a real solution to our broken immigration system,” Evelyn Rivera of United We Dream said in a statement. “Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT) and Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) made passing immigration reform a top priority and worked with leaders from both parties to move the bill quickly through the Senate,” she continued. “Now it's ...
Why did Obama and Clinton vote in favor of the Lieberman bill if they are against the war in Iraq?? Now Iran?
So now president Bush has the authority to fire at will? Is this going to be the same proof we saw with Iraq??
Were Inching Towards War. Heres a full record of votes on the House
http://toshuo.com/2007/senate-passes-lieberman-amendment-on-iran-97-0-war-draws-a-bit-nearer/
version of the Bill. It won by also won by a landslide, 398-27.
Michael, thanks for answering. Really it isnt about democrats vs republicans, because so many of both have supported this bill. It is so disheartening that the media wont cover this. The people do not want another war, we dont even want the one we are stuck in now.
Of course my hero Ron Paul was against it!!! but now I hope he wins the nomination because he will be the only man with the balls to stop this shit.
coragyrph, why would we need a bill to gather information, you are obviously, not so bright.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bill_Kristol_Lieberman_makes_attack_on_0611.html
Answer: did i miss something??
The numbers you present appear to be those of a house vote - i thought Clinton and Obabma were senators - that vote would be at 100 wouldnt it?
Well,
not withstanding the littel slip in numbers, to answer your question Yes on both accounts - I also believe that bush had the authority to this some time back now just because of this bill.
Bush, in order to move forward on his agenda needs three thing to happen -
1. he needs a war before the end of the year to set up his "national emergency"
2. he needs to get the immigration bill passed - this i svital for the start of the super highway on the mexican border
3. he needs to get socialized medicine passed - this is vital for the start of the super highway on the canadian border
You could consider a fourth if you want - but it will happen once the NAU is formed anyway - thats the amero needs to come into being
this last one can actually wait for a year or two without hurting his agenda - yeah he is being a good little boy and is fullfilling his daddy's dream
Category: Government
SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL - Seattle Post-Intelligencer
1 day ago ... WASHINGTON (AP) — Far-reaching immigration legislation cruised toward passage in the Senate as House Republicans pushed ahead ...
Anyone else on the far-left currently disappointed with Obama and the Democrats?
Removing the public option from the healthcare bill, supporting Charles Schumers immigration reform rather than Luis Gutierrezs, not Nationalizing failed banks assets like they did in the UK (with successful results)--is anyone a bit disappointed by Obama currently?
its my goddamn country too. you leave for being so anti-American that you cant tolerate opposing political opinion.
I dont hate it. and Im glad Republicans are raging that the only place they are the majority is on Y!Answers. lololol
Answer: I don't think Obama has a lot of control over the number of Republicans in the Senate. They simply refuse to compromise, nevermind compromise on an actual leftist agenda.
Relax though, the public option may go back in during reconciliation. They only need to water the bill down enough to get it through the 2/3 Senate vote, when they re-submit it they only need 51.
Obama may be leftist, but he's never proclaimed to be the champion of the far left. Above all else, he's pragmatic. He'd rather cut deals and pass a compromised bill that moves his agenda forward slowly than deadlock D.C. and demand that his every whim be met.
What I find remarkable about Obama is that he's doing EXACTLY what he said he'd do during his campaign.
Given the circumstances, I think he's doing a good job. He hasn't made my every dream come true, but I'd give him a solid B+ so far.
Category: Politics
SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL - The New York Times
1 day ago ... The Senate has agreed to spend tens of billions of dollars on a dramatic increase of border security. The move comes as senators near ...
Is Brownbeck a fraud?
"During a procedural vote to move the measure forward to a final vote, Brownback -- who has previously expressed support for the immigration overhaul championed by President Bush -- initially voted to proceed. But in the Senate, lawmakers can switch their votes until the final tally is called, based on how the vote is going, which is exactly what Brownback did.
His presidential campaign later issued a press release in which he said, "I voted against the Senate immigration bill because I am not convinced it would fix our broken immigration system and it would most likely repeat the mistakes of the 1986 reform." (Posted 5:47 p.m.)
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/28/thursday/index.html?section=cnn_latest
cj - he changed after first voting the same way IN THE SAME ROLL CALL once he saw he was on the losing side....
Answer: He is a liar and he can take his Alfalfa act back to Kansas because the American people aren't buying his lies.
He should stick to pro life issues, the only issues he has a consistent record on.
Category: Immigration
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SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL - NY Daily News
1 day ago ... The Senate has agreed to spend tens of billions of dollars on a dramatic increase of border security. The move comes as senators near ...
Immigration bill sails through Senate, has little hope in House - CBS ...
10 hours ago ... Senate passes "border surge" amendment · Immigration reform foes count on House to kill the bill. "As this process moves forward, I urge ...
Is it true, that any immigration reform bill will have a provision making it illegal for states to enforce...?
immigration laws?
I have read two different reports on some of the proposed "provisions" that are ready if this actually becomes a bill this year...
WHY would anyone add a provision like that to immigration reform?
excerpt...
That "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill Schumer and Obama are pushing is likely to contain a provision that would make it illegal for states to enforce Federal immigration law. That way, when the Feds refuse to enforce the law, there will be nothing the states can do about it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/27/national/main6436027.shtml
(there are also DEMOCRATIC sites that have put forward the idea that States have no right to enforce immigration laws...or SHOULD have no right to do so)
Also,
A prominent Senate Democrat asked Republican Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer to put off her states controversial immigration law to give Congress a chance to act. Scant time passed before Brewers answer came back: No.
The request by Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York was a long shot for getting a stalled Senate immigration initiative moving again. Even the White House thinks the Senate proposal is nearly dead. "Theres not enough support to move forward," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday.
Still, among Democrats, theres plenty of support for trying — at least in public — to advance immigration reform during this year of midterm elections. The partys control of Congress depends in part on Hispanics, a key constituency, voting Democratic.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_immigration_11
Schumer is KIDDING RIGHT!! Time to act? THeyve had YEARS!!! and done NOTHING! Now he want Arizona to give them MORE time to act? (yes liberals, this includes Bush too)
Answer: If you think like the Federal Govt,and those currently in control of it,it makes sense.First of all because those controlling our Govt want the Feds to be the final word on everything,the days for any input from the States are over as far as they're concerned.Lincoln started the idea of an almighty Federal Govt,and 150 years later it is finally coming to fruition.The other reason is of course everyone in Govt wants the massive influx of Immigrants,legal or illegal.It drives down wages(Why wages have been stagnant for a decade),so the Big Business supporters love that.And the Hispanic Immigrants all come from countries where the govts are in total control,and will always support the govt "doing more" for the people(In other words giving Govt more power,the Dems LOVE that one)
So basically,they don't want the States getting in the way of what is essentially nothing more than a huge power grab,using Immigrants as the tool to attain it.Because once the "legalize" all these Immigrants,you don't really think they're going to secure the border,do you? Of course not,they just want the cycle to repeat,then get to legalize 15 million more big govt minded voters again in 20 years or so. Can't let the silly States to get in the way,no matter how adversely it affects their populations.
RWE
Category: Politics
What is the next step in the continuing Illegal immigration debate?
Since the elections, We have heard very little about the remaing problem of illegal immigration, AKA, Criminal trespass. This forum has turned into a farce, and it seems that the solution is still a long ways off. What is the next logical step to be taken in order to come to a workable solution?
Answer: Hoyer was just elected over Pelosi as majority leader in the House, did you see?
We are waiting to see who the powers that be are.
However, think hard what a pass-able solution might look like and write to your congressmen. That would be my suggestion. It is starting to sound like if they move forward it would be something new, not a 'version' of the Senate Bill (thank heavan). That means voices need to be heard.
Category: Immigration
How do you like the new & improved Lou Dobbs joins Chuck Schumer to push for immigration reform?
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) met Wednesday with an unlikely voice in the debate over immigration legislation: Lou Dobbs.
Schumer, chairman of the Judiciary Committees subcommittee on immigration, cited his huddle with Dobbs — who sparked controversy as a CNN host with anti-immigration segments titled "Exporting America," "Broken Borders" and "War on the Middle Class" — as an example of how Democrats are committed to moving forward on immigration reform in a bipartisan way.
"Yes, we are making good progress," Schumer said Thursday. "The progress that we were [making] in the fall is continuing now. Were meeting with all different kinds of groups, trying to get everybody together to come out for one bill. In fact, yesterday, I met with Lou Dobbs, who, as many of you know, is changing his views on immigration."
The senior senator from New York faced a question over whether immigration is still a legislative priority, as President Barack Obamas State of the Union address failed to mention any initiatives on immigration reform.
Insisting that reform still will be passed, Schumer focused on finding a bipartisan way to push a bill through the Senate.
"Now Ive said all along, even before last Tuesday with the Massachusetts election, we need a bipartisan bill — two Democrats and two Republicans to produce it. Were not there yet. Were still working on getting our Republicans, but were talking to people who have a lot of interest and enthusiasm, and our intention is to move forward," Schumer said.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32172.html
Answer: Lou Dobbs is not going to change anything. As I've said all along, we the people will not allow another massive citizenship give away to anybody with the tag of better life, have a kid, expecting these requirements to make them legal.. There are more people against immigration than for it. Many Dem's already have been giving a wake up call, will millions of Americans without jobs, our last concern should be Mexico's unemployment problems, let them resolve their own problems. We got enough of our own
Category: Immigration
Senate passes immigration bill, but future prospects are cloudy ...
Republican Senator from Arizona John McCain (L) and Democratic Senator from New York Chuck Schumer (R) talk with the media outside the Senate chamber after the immigration bill passed a crucial vote to move forward ...
BIGGER BORDER PATROL CANT HALT INLUX, AGENTS SAY
The Reagan Administration has drafted plans to deploy hundreds more law-enforcement officers along the Mexican border in a new effort to halt the influx of illegal aliens. But Border Patrol agents say it will take more than additional manpower to end illegal immigration. You need something to remove the lure that brings them here, jobs, said - By ROBERT LINDSEY
Why did Ronald Reagan have to pass an Immigration reform bill for amnesty but Obama can do it all by himself?
Congress had to pass the The Immigration Reform and Control Act before Reagan could sign it into law on November 6, 1986.
Why can Obama do it all by himself now when he said in July 2011 he couldnt act without congress?
Did the Constitution change?
Answer: All Presidents have used the Executive Order or a form of the Executive Order to command and operate the Federal Government. Some used the Executive Order to push through laws when the Senate and Congress failed to move forward on what the leader of the free world felt were urgent and necessary laws that needed to be enacted immediately.
George W. Bush (R) (2001-2009) had a total of 291 Executive Orders throughout his 8 years in office.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/orders/
This isn’t amnesty. It’s simply refusing to punish children for what their parents did, which makes moral good sense.
“I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and have lived here even though some time back they may have entered here illegally.” ~ Ronald Reagan.
The immigration reform supported by Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Republicans like to forget about that. They also want to ignore the potential impact of immigration reform on the economy. The economic impact of the Dream Act would, over the next ten years cause a $1.7 billion revenue increase and a $2.2 billion deficit reduction, according to the CBO. These benefits put Republicans behind the 8-ball when it comes to their opposition to reform.
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Category: Politics
Senate moves forward on border security amendment, boosting ...
The Senate voted 67-27 Monday to move forward on an amendment to its comprehensive immigration reform bill that would make the plan much heavier on border enforcement, a compromise that's expected to draw more ...
Thompson, Seeking a Theme, Takes On a Tricky Issue: Entitlements
As Fred D. Thompson moves around the country delivering his folksy stump speech, he routinely makes his way through a laundry list of top concerns: national security, immigration reform, federalism and activist judges, among others. But he seems most energized when he discusses the ballooning cost of entitlement programs like Social Security and - Republican presidential candidate Fred D Thompson routinely makes his way through laundry list of top concerns when he delivers his folksy stump speech, but he seems most energized when he discusses ballooning cost of entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare, and what he calls need for more fiscal responsibility in Washington; photo (M) - By SUSAN SAULNY
With Little Nancy and Ho-Hum Harry in charge, what is the most we can expect from this Congress?
Will these morons actually get anything DONE or will it be back to the future with lots of smoke and mirrors but little being accomplished except for somewhat higher taxes, growing bureaucracies, handouts to teachers unions, trial lawyers, and enviros and all the rest weve seen before?
What about war, health care, immigration, the coming entitlement / baby boomer collision, global warming, and all the rest. Knowing these losers have no moral courage can we expect them to even address these issues head-on so the country can move forward instead of continually staying stuck in the same place?
"Answers" with nothing but raving about how terrible the opponents of Little Nancy and Ho-Hum Harry are WILL BE REPORTED so, if youve nothing to say, keep it to yourself!
Answer: The only saving grace is that the House can't do much of anything without the Senate in lock step and with a little backbone. the Senate will stop any nonsense bills originating in the House. If they don't, then my cousin Veto will step in.
Category: Other - Politics & Government
Are Americans finally being heard on the hill?
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149190737825&path=!news!today
Is the will of "We the people" finally going to to hold sway on immigration into America?
WASHINGTON
The House and the Senate moved yesterday toward a piecemeal crackdown on illegal immigration, pushing forward separate bills to require photo identification to vote, build fences on the U.S.-Mexico border and speed the deportation of undocumented workers. The bills would take the place of President Bushs far broader rewrite of the nations immigration laws.
Voting almost completely along party lines, the House voted 228-196 for a bill that would require all who register to vote in federal elections to show photo identification that proves that they are U.S. citizens.
The Senate, meanwhile, voted 94-0 to take up a bill passed by the House last week to build 700 miles of double-layered fencing on the U.S.-Mexico border, with a final vote to come as early as Monday.
Today, the House is scheduled to take up bills to speed up the deportation of illegal immigrants, ratchet up penalties for immigrant gang members and human smugglers, end an exemption for Salvadoran illegal immigrants from rapid deportation, make it a crime to tunnel under the border, and overtly deputize state and local police officers to enforce federal immigration laws.
In an interview on CNN, Bush said he would sign the legislation, even though it does not embrace a more comprehensive approach - including a guest-worker program - that he has backed.
"Yes, Ill sign it into law," he said. "I would view this as an interim step. I dont view this as a final product."
Passage of the legislation - should it occur - would permit leaders of the Republican-controlled Congress to claim they have taken steps to deal with the flood of illegal immigrants. It is an issue that has rent the party, spawned demonstrations in many cities last spring, and called into question the Republicans ability to face tough issues.
"Border security is national security," said Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif., the chairman of the House Rules Committee, with House GOP leaders by his side. "Were going to try our daggonest to enact as many of these bills as we can."
With little more than a week left before the Sept. 29 start of Congresss scheduled recess, GOP leaders are considering appending some or all of the bills to a must-pass spending bill before they leave town. But Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss., the Appropriations Committee chairman, appeared to close off that avenue last night, saying he will not add any legislative language onto the spending bills that could slow their progress in the final days before the coming recess.
The sudden rush of activity startled immigrant and civil-rights groups, which had largely thought a legislative response on illegal immigration was dead for the year. The National Immigration Law Center sent out an "urgent" notice to allies to prod them into action, saying, "In recent days, there has been a serious deterioration of the position of pro-immigrant forces in Congress."
The legislators embrace of a piecemeal approach came as members of a private task force on immigration repeated its belief that a comprehensive solution is necessary to solve the nations problems with illegal immigration. The task forces plan includes strong border enforcement and a program that allows illegal immigrants already in the country to stay by paying a stiff fine.
But it also proposes that the president and Congress establish two federal organizations that would regulate the flow of immigrants and help them assimilate into society. Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., who was a co-chairman of the Migration Policy Institute task force with former Sen. Spencer Abraham, R-Mich., said that the Houses approach is too draconian against illegal immigrants, and a Senate bill approved in May is too complex.
Most of the provisions in the bills the legislators are now considering were plucked from the Houses border-security and anti-illegal-immigration bill that passed in December, then prompted protests this spring that brought millions of illegal immigrants into the streets. But Republicans say that the politics of illegal immigration have shifted in favor of their get-tough approach. Even some Republicans who have backed Bushs approach, such as Rep. John Shadegg, R-Ariz., said yesterday that the shift among voters in favor of "enforcement first" is palpable.
"While Ive made it clear that I prefer a comprehensive solution, I have always said we need an enforcement-first approach to immigration reform," said Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tenn., the majority leader, who surprised many immigration-rights activists when he took up the House border-fencing bill.
Cecilia Munoz, the vice president of the National Council of La Raza, said that Republicans "are politically playing with fire" with Hispanic voters, who gave 40 percent of their vote to Bush in 2004.
The rhetoric in the House yesterday was particularly heated, with a stream of black and Hispanic Democrats taking to the floor to denounce a voter-ID bill that they called a "modern-day poll tax" intended to disenfranchise minority, elderly and disabled voters who lean Democratic.
Answer: I want to see these passed into law,I'm tired of pre election promises.I think that the way we all vote in November will decide what if any of theses bills will become law.They are on recess now right so there will be no action taken until after the election.If we that oppose illegals don't make our votes heard loudly by those in Washington it will be the same old BS that its always been.We must send a message to the politicians that if they don't get the borders secured and ASAP that they will be among the unemployed.We hire and we can fire them.Get out the vote.I will be ferrying people that don't have a way to the poles,I will pick them up and take them home .Think about doing that in your city.We must be heard.
No amnesty
Secure our nations borders
NOW
bubba if you don't like long questions don't answer them,its a good post
Category: Immigration
SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL - Madison.com
1 day ago ... Far-reaching immigration legislation cruised toward passage in the Senate as House Republicans pushed ahead Wednesday on a different ...
Do you agree or disagree Critics: South Carolina immigration bill violates civil rights?
An immigration bill moved one step closer to becoming law in South Carolina even though large questions remain about whether some parts of the legislation would violate the U.S. Constitution or other federal laws.
A Senate judiciary subcommittee has been considering for nearly a year an Arizona-style immigration bill that would enable local police and sheriff’s departments to enforce federal immigration laws. On Thursday, the legislators on the committee had questions about the legality of some provisions.
Still, the subcommittee voted 3-1 to send the bill to the full judiciary committee when the legislative session begins Tuesday. The committee instructed its staff attorney to craft solutions to those potential legal problems, but those changes won’t be available for two or three days.
Until those changes are made, it will be hard to develop arguments against the bill, Tammy Besherse, an attorney with the S.C. Appleseed Legal Justice Center, which opposes the bill.
“I’m just not sure how they’re going to answer some of those questions, so I want to reserve my comments until I see what they write,” Besherse said.
The bill that moved forward Thursday also included measures that tweak a 2008 S.C. immigration law, which mostly affected businesses’ hiring practices.
A discussion about the bill among four committee members on Thursday illustrated the fine line law enforcement may have to walk should the bill become law.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/07/2004833/critics-blast-sc-immigration-bill.html#ixzz1AfKIED84
Answer: To sum this up: It's US against THEM. Expect there to be a conflict when Citizens Rights take a back seat to the US government favoring the rights of Mexicans who are in this country Illegally.
Apparently Illegals have not gotten the memo that Americans are sick of paying to support the lifestyle of anyone entering this country Illegally. They don't wish to watch good jobs given to the lowest bidder to save employers money by circumventing the IRS.
I could go on and on about the injustices to Americans because I am one. I could go on and on about the resentment I have towards Illegals because my parents are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
Nothing can justify the existence of Illegals demanding to be treated like Americans. It's wrong on every level.
So whatever South Carolina does to reverse the trend of Government favoritism towards Illegal Immigrants, I wholeheartedly support.
Category: Immigration
Are we winning the battle against illegal aliens?
WASHINGTON - Citing new figures showing arrests for illegal border crossings down 27 percent since October, Sen. Charles Schumer on Wednesday argued that the federal government is fulfilling its promise to secure the nations borders, so now its time for "immigration reform."
Declines in the arrests indicate fewer people are trying to enter illegally, border patrol officials said Wednesday, whether because of tougher enforcement or the bad economy.
With such testimony in the second Senate hearing this year on an ambitious overhaul of immigration laws, Schumer, a New York Democrat and chairman of the Senates immigration subcommittee, sought to address the issue he says sank previous legislation.
"The reason the bill failed is that the American people didnt have faith that there wouldnt be a future wave of illegal immigrants if we passed that bill," Schumer said.Schumer is attempting to forge a consensus on the hot-button issue of immigration, a politically difficult task in a year with a jammed agenda. But he has backing from President Barack Obama to move forward.
Obama will host a White House meeting on immigration with key members of Congress on June 8, a White House official said.
Schumer and officials from immigration enforcement and the border patrol touted tougher measures on the border as contributing to the decline.
But even Schumer had to agree with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who Wednesday said the number of those trying to cross the border went down "because of the decline in the labor market."
Still, arrests for illegal crossings have dropped steadily in a trend that began before the economic crash. The border patrol recorded 876,704 arrests in fiscal year 2007, down 20 percent from 2006, and 723,825 arrests in 2008, down 17 percent.
Schumer seeks consensus on immigration reform
http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/nation/ny-usimmi2112787698may20,0,7334413.story
Answer: yes, with more deportations, better border patrol, more laws being introduced and more American citizens telling our government this is not acceptable has helped the numbers go down, but it is only a small step forward. we need to allow National Guard to patrol the border along with more border patrol, we need more raids on businesses and illegals homes, and we need to change the law that offspring of illegals are not considered citizens. We have a long way to go, but we are starting on the right road finally! Now to keep obama up on citizens wishes!
Category: Immigration
As Senate Passes Immigration Bill, the ZuckerPAC Takes a Victory ...
... becomes law, today's vote showed that Senators from across the political spectrum came together in a bipartisan way to vote for reform that will move our economy forward and honor our history as a nation of immigrants.”.
US Senate passes immigration reform bill — RT USA - RT asks
The United States Senate approved a landmark immigration bill Thursday afternoon after lawmakers in Washington voted 68-to-32 in favor of the Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. ... the Senate passes. We're going to do our own bill -- through regular order -- and move the legislation that reflects the will of our majority and the will of the American people," Speaker Boehner said during a Thursday press briefing.
IMMIGRANT BILL, LACKING 15 VOTES, STALLS IN SENATE
The sweeping immigration overhaul endorsed by President Bush crumbled in the Senate on Thursday night, leaving the future of one of the administrations chief domestic priorities in serious doubt. After a day of tension and fruitless maneuvering, senators rejected a Democratic call to move toward a final vote on the compromise legislation after - Sweeping immigration overhaul championed by Pres Bush crumbles in Senate after senators reject Democratic call to move forward toward final vote on compromise legislation; supporters of cutting off debate get only 45 of 60 votes needed; Sen Harry Reid, majority leader, leaves door open to revisiting issue later this year; outcome is significant setback for Bush, and it comes mainly at hands of members of his own party; defeat is also crushing for bipartisan group of dozen senators who met privately for three months to broker compromise that tried to balance call for stricter border enforcement with way for many of 12 million people who are illegally in country to qualify for citizenship eventually; photo (M) - By CARL HULSE and ROBERT PEAR; Jim Rutenberg contributed reporting from Midland, Tex.
Senate votes to move forward with immigration bill – CNN Political ...
3 days ago ... (CNN) -- The U.S. Senate on Monday signaled strong support in a test vote for a bipartisan proposal to strengthen border security, giving a ...
THE FIRST PRIMARY
Twenty-nine floors above Nashville, a slight man in a dark suit is exploding into the telephone. "Whats goin owwnnn?!" he shouts, in a voice that has closed a thousand deals. Ted Welch, mid-south mogul and Republican money man, is searching for $20 million, which he thinks can turn Lamar Alexander, the former Governor of Tennessee, into the - Jason Deparle is the staff writer for The Times Magazine - By Jason DeParle;
PolitiFact | Fact-checking attacks on the immigration bill
As the U.S. Senate moves forward on an immigration bill, critics of the legislation have charged the bill won't stop illegal immigration while rewarding people who came to the United States without proper permission.
Did you see fence is probable but gang measures will likely not make it?
"Meanwhile, debate continues in the Senate on a bill setting the goals and timetable for constructing the fences. Its not a sure thing that the House would have enough time to vote on minor Senate changes and send the bill to President Bush before lawmakers recess until after the Nov. 7 elections.
Construction of the border fence is the single significant accomplishment on the hot-button immigration issue that has consumed so much of Congress attention this year.
While the fence idea is moving forward, the rest of a September House agenda featuring legislation on deporting gang members and empowering local police to arrest illegal immigrants has fallen by the wayside."
And secure ID for borders may be pushed back to 2009. THAT I am against.
What do you think?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15058566/
Answer: Vote them out of office. They are not doing their jobs. Clean the house.
Category: Immigration
Foreign Affairs; Bushs Ultimatum to Shamir
George Bush has a mega-jolt in store for Yitzhak Shamir. The President seems ready to let the Prime Minister know that Israel will have to make a choice: between more Israeli settlements in the occupied territories and U.S.-backed multibillion-dollar loan guarantees, between pleasing thousands of right-wing settlers and helping resettle hundreds of - By LESLIE H. GELB
Wjat Part of No Amensty dont they get -- Senators plan to revive immigration bill?
Senators plan to revive immigration bill
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070615/ap_on_go_co/immigration
Left for dead a week ago, legislation to strengthen border security while bestowing legal status on millions of illegal immigrants is showing signs of life.
Senate leaders announced plans Thursday night to revive the White House-backed measure as early as next week, although neither Majority Leader Harry Reid nor his GOP counterpart, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, issued any predictions the bill ultimately would pass.
Instead, they issued a statement that said in its entirety: "We met this evening with several of the senators involved in the immigration bill negotiations. Based on that discussion, the immigration bill will return to the Senate floor after completion" of sweeping energy legislation that has occupied the Senate this week.
There was no immediate reaction from the bills numerous Senate critics, who have consistently attacked the legislation as conferring amnesty on the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the country.
Officials said the Bush-backed plan for accelerated funding would be among the changes to be voted on. So, too, a proposal by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, to toughen a requirement for illegal immigrants to return to their home country before gaining legal status.
Also to be protected from immediate change is a provision giving law enforcement agencies access to personal information that immigrants provide on their applications for legal status.
But the provisions relating to the legal fate of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants has drawn the most controversy.
The bill allows illegal immigrants who were in the country as of Jan. 1, 2007, to come forward, pay fees and fines, pass a background check and receive an indefinitely renewable four-year Z visa to live and work legally in the U.S.
Ultimately, holders of Z visas could qualify for citizenship if they learn English and hold down jobs. Heads of households would have to return to their home countries, whether or not they sought a green card bestowing permanent legal resident status.
The bill also creates a new employment-based point system for new immigrants to qualify for green cards based on their education and skill level, and eliminates or limits visa preferences for family members of U.S. citizens and permanent legal residents.
The text of the bill, S. 1348, may be found at http://thomas.loc.go
Answer: Overall, I think most people recognize the logistics and associated problems of attempting to remove 12 million + people from the country.
The American public does not want to see money thrown at the border control problem in empty promises that are rarely if ever truly followed up on.
If the government would fulfill it's obligation to control the border, granted, a huge undertaking in and of itself, and they established this control first, and then moved toward a naturalization and legalization program for people here, many people would likely calm down and accept the necessity for some type of implied amnesty.
It's a case of fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. They promised to control the borders in 1986 and failed to do so then and have continued that failure and now they want us to believe that because they pass a bill in the senate, that they are somehow solving the problem.
As things stand, the likely scenario in many people's minds is that these 12 million plus will be legalized and forgiven and the flood of illegals will continue to cross the borders unchecked. We have no reason to trust that the border issue will be resolved with the promise of a few billion being thrown at it. People I know want to see real results on controlling the border and then address the issues of those already here.
Category: Politics
What do U think Immigration reform timetable gives Latinos pause?
When President Barack Obama announced a timetable last week that puts off comprehensive immigration reform until next year, some advocates and other observers werent surprised, given the still-struggling economy and the massive health care and energy bills ahead of the issue.
But while supporters of both the president and immigration reform put faith in its new promise — which as a candidate Obama had promised in 2009 — some advocates are sounding more doubtful.
Some fear that “comprehensive” will be dropped from “immigration reform,” and that the weight of other initiatives will result in more piecemeal approaches to overhauling the nations immigration laws, widely viewed as broken.
“We still feel its one of the top three priorities,” said Margaret Pulles, spokeswoman for the San Antonio-based Mexicans and Americans Thinking Together, or MATT.org.
“Come January, if were not hearing something,” said Graciela Sanchez, executive director of the Esperanza Peace & Justice Center, “well have to make a push.”
“Reform is a priority in the Latino community,” said San Antonian Rosa Rosales, national president of the League of United Latin American Citizens. “I would strongly urge that Latino organizations push the issue that we need comprehensive immigration reform now.”
Obama “is not going to forget the immigrant community,” she added.
Advocates on the front lines of helping immigrant families torn apart by deportations arent so sure, sounding more exasperated with a continued hard line from the Department of Homeland Security.
“Im very concerned,” said Alejandro Siller, coordinator of Mexican American Catholic Colleges San Juan Diego Project, which provides services to immigrants and faith-based groups that assist them. “Raids continue because there is no solution.”
A comprehensive bill being drafted by Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., is likely to include border security, penalties for employers who hire undocumented workers and what MATT.org calls “a fair and realistic plan for integrating undocumented workers into a legal system of employment.”
What opponents call “amnesty,” supporters couch as “a pathway to citizenship” for the 11 million to 12 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States. Instead of harsh punishment or deportation, Archbishop José Gomez wrote in a column last week, immigrants should receive community service, or another punishment “that fits the crime.”
Immigrant advocates also want Congress to change immigration caps and visa limits they consider unreasonable.
Donna R. Gabaccia of the Immigration History Research Center at the University of Minnesota said the limits have contributed “to a sense that immigration is out of control.”
That the same number of visas is extended to both Nigeria and Mexico, for example, is not realistic, the historian said. And congressional loopholes for refugees and relatives of immigrants compound the problem, she said.
“People say immigrants should get in the back of the line, but there is no line. There are no visas or almost no visas for unskilled and semiskilled workers to wait in,” Gabaccia said. “The diminishing small number of visas guarantees illegality.”
Members of San Antonios congressional delegation who back reform sound doubtful of passage, too, especially given 2010 elections.
Obama has said hes willing to move forward if the votes are there, said Rep. Ciro Rodriguez, D-San Antonio. “It doesnt look like we have the votes, in all honesty.” He said Congress might instead address reform “partially.”
Rep. Charles Gonzalez, D-San Antonio, agreed. However, he thinks the Senate will introduce a bill before years end.
“One of the complications is that Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), one of our champions, is not on the Senate floor,” Gonzalez said.
Obamas recent comments from Guadalajara, Mexico, were encouraging, Gonzalez added, because they indicate reform is still on his agenda.
But the congressman added that if a comprehensive bill isnt passed, “Well try to do it piecemeal.”
He cited the Dream Act, introduced in March, which would extend permanent residency to immigrant students who came to the United States as children and have graduated from high school.
Gonzalez said more border security funds would be approved regardless of an immigration bill, and “a temporary workers program of some sort” will be addressed.
“We have certain windows,” Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Laredo, said. “Experience and history have told us if its postponed to the following year, then youre talking about 2011.”
Even opponents of immigration reform say the Obama administration may just run out of time.
“These are all big initiatives he has taken on,” said Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform. “Theres a limit to how much you can get done.”
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Answer: Any "comprehensive immigration reform" needs to be put in simple terms with no hidden bylaws, and put to the vote in 2010. The final decision has to be left to the people, not politicians who think they know what's best for us.
"We the people" need to stay active in OUR government, and start holding our elected officials to a higher standard, and accountable for bad decisions made on behalf of the few rather than the many. It's still our government, the only reason our employees get away with stupidity is because we let them.
Category: Immigration
Why does Obama and Harry Reid block all the House Jobs bills?
Since Congress creates Bills (not the Pres) according to our constitution, why doesnt Obama and Reid allow House Jobs Bills to move forward.
Congress creates legislation
Executive branch has veto power but the job of the president is to enforce the laws (such as immigration)
Supreme court makes certain that laws are made according to the Constitution
So why doesnt princess Harry let the Senate vote on the 11 plus jobs bills passed by the House?
The House votes on Obamas bills when sponsored by House Democrats. They House may vote them down but at least they vote.
Same story with the budgets although historically the President has initiated the budgets for the last 50 plus years.
Answer: Obama's failure to meet with his own jobs panel for more the 7 months now, and the pitiful excuse given by Jay Carney for not doing so provides evidence to reasonal people that jobs are not a priority for Obama nor the Democrats.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/18/carney_on_why_jobs_council_hasnt_met_in_six_months_obama_has_a_lot_on_his_plate.html
Category: Politics
TRACES OF TERROR; Excerpts From Senate Judiciary Committees Counterterrorism Hearing
Following are excerpts from the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday on counterterrorism, as recorded by Federal News Service Inc. Robert S. Mueller III, director of the F.B.I. and Agent Coleen Rowley were questioned by Senators Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont; Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah; Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of - Excerpts from Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on counterterrorism in which FBI Director Robert S Mueller III and Agent Coleen Rowley testify
SENATE MOVES FORWARD ON IMMIGRATION BILL - WREX.com – Rockford's ...
The Senate has agreed to spend tens of billions of dollars on a dramatic increase of border security.